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Critters forms used/abused in BGs

lanevegame

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Jun 18, 2015
Hello people, I just wanted to highlight this issue and make a quick recap about it. Also I've noticed that there are no official statements about it (or at least I didn't find any), so I'm not even sure if this is considered a bug abuse or not; but considering the general server rules I guess it should be (?):

http://www.kronos-wow.com/project-kronos-rules/

It is prohibited to abuse bugs/exploits or use of game mechanics in a way that is not intended. Ignorance of this behavior is not an excuse.


I've heard people saying that some GM told them it's fine to use these critters forms even in BGs. So please make a clear statement about this; as you can see below more and more people are starting to use it, even on Alliance side.

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And in case you simply see this as a minor bug or a working-as-intended thing, maybe you should consider again your thoughts about it, since it heavily affects the game play, especially in PvP. Please check the list below.



Issues


  • Completelly hides WSG flag (no flag model shown or glow, not even the trace).
  • It hides casting animations (ex. Priests can Mind Control without being noticed).
  • It hides druids forms (same as for other disguises, but this lasts forever and has a way smaller size).
  • The effect lasts endlessly and it's not removed upon death.
  • It decreases dramatically the size of the user, and if used together with Noggenfogger and World Enlarger you become almost invisible.
  • Hunters' traps aren't getting triggered due to the insanely small hit boxes of the critter forms.


[K-I] Blacklist

https://forum.twinstar.cz/showthread.php/114230-Reasonabull-Quest-item-abuse
https://forum.twinstar.cz/showthread.php/114217-Yatusabes-Abusing-PVP-status-bug
https://forum.twinstar.cz/showthread.php/114216-Cyphen-Abusing-PVP-status-bug
https://forum.twinstar.cz/showthread.php/114205-Burn-Abusing-PVP-status-bug
https://forum.twinstar.cz/showthrea...-Letspartybro-Docks-Blummper-Quest-item-abuse
https://forum.twinstar.cz/showthread.php/113780-Letspartybro-Dextros-Bahamatt-Other


Other posts with screenshots

https://forum.twinstar.cz/showthread.php/114219-Stupid-Horde-Exploit?p=834036&viewfull=1#post834036
https://forum.twinstar.cz/showthrea...f-Kronos-1-PvP?p=833362&viewfull=1#post833362


Wowhead quote

http://www.wowhead.com/npc=10578/bombay#comments:id=12433

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Bug Report

https://vanilla-twinhead.twinstar.cz/?issue=9191

If you want you can click on the link above, login and rate +1 the issue to highlight it, so maybe it's gonna draw some attention and be fixed (in case they'll consider it an actual bug).
 
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This is definitly not intended and the GM has yet to read the rules, Ignorance as GM, is that not an excuse ? Oh guess there is nobody to check the GM's?

Which means the GM doesnt respect the rules which should mean the removal of the GM or a warning.

Now the GM is questionable regarding how many other rules he is not aware of ?

How many mistakes has this GM done previously ? Did he ban or mute people mistakenly ?

Should he get removed now ? XD

what a joke
 
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This is definitly not intended and the GM has yet to read the rules, Ignorance as GM, is that not an excuse ? Oh guess there is nobody to check the GM's?

Which means the GM doesnt respect the rules which should mean the removal of the GM or a warning.

Now the GM is questionable regarding how many other rules he is not aware of ?

How many mistakes has this GM done previously ? Did he ban or mute people mistakenly ?

Should he get removed now ? XD

what a joke

There's no need to be so harsh, Kronos GMs deserve more respect for what they do for us (and they work for free by the way). And about this particular statement, I'm pretty sure Lightsky is aware of the rules, and since the issue is not yet confirmed (https://vanilla-twinhead.twinstar.cz/?issue=9164), he just can't take the decision to ban/kick a player for using/abusing it.
 
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I've added the right link to the bug tracker (the other one was a duplicate of the same issue), and looks like they confirmed the bug. Yey!
 
You guys need to understand what is allowed and what is not.

Using a bug to permanently remain in critter form even though it's supposed to end in a few seconds and thereby be able to conceal your casting animations and WSG flag animation/trail is perfectly fine.

However, jumping down from the horde ramp on top of horde tunnel is NOT allowed. This is your last warning.

Come on people, logic! This isn't hard!
 
This will all end with a "bug fixed" with no punishment as usual anyway, whereas even if they were busy with AQ you could just ban 2/3 people for few days/weeks when it started and announce to stop those kind of bug abuse. It would have fixed the issue way faster whitout even having to fix the bug (which is there since the beginning of the server anyway.)
 
...should mean the removal of the GM or a warning.
With your permission, we will decide ourselves how to deal with any GM-related issues, thank you very much. And I can guarantee you that if you continue questioning GMs' work with this "tone", the only thing that will remain questionable will be your further existence on the forum.

Very neatly-arranged thread, by the way, good job.
 
Today I've tested Curse of the Eye (ghost pirate disguise) right after last server update, and looks like it doesn't bug anymore when you enter a battleground!

Thank you so much for the quick response Kronos team!
 
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