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MULTIBOX programs!

No one likes multibox?This post is quiet much! Well I prefer to dont allow us to multibox,but this depends on Kronos Staff :)
 
it look nice , i will be interested to try multibox when server get released
 
Staff should seriously forbid multiboxing. This is getting way out of hand.
 
during vanilla multiboxing was extremely rare, it first started growing after they added arena in tbc so forbidding it would bring the server closest to a vanilla feeling :smile:
 
You cant compare the old retail wow with the actually project. You needed to have 3/4/5 or what how much accounts to multibox and so you needed to pay for this accounts and to buy the game. So it was not possible for everybody to multibox, cause it was quiet expensive.

In my mind its not a good idea to legalize that, cause this can really destroy alot. I dont speak only from pvp, just think about the economy. Every character can push 2 professions and you could do alot of gold with that...
 
I just gave informations what multibox programs today can do,you cant compare them to old multibox programs in 2007, why WE cant make poll about multibox?
I must agree to dont ALLOW us to MULTIBOXING!
 
I would go even further and forbid multiboxing at all, even without the use of third party software. As soon as someone has a level 60 charakter, it becomes way too easy for him to boost his own alts (by entering dungeons with them, pulling shitloads of mobs, leaving the party and killing the mobs with the main charakter while the alt gets all the experience). It was not forbidden on retail, I know (on the other hand: wasn't Athena banned for doing exactly this?), but in some cases you have to adjust rules to the circumstances of a private server in order to get the best retail-like experience.
As Sven said, the problem did not exist on retail, simply because people would have to buy multiple copies of the game and pay the monthly fee for all the accounts.
 
I must agree with that it CAN break feeling from the game for someone. But on the other hand, I don't see any way to forbid it and don't break other things.
For me, i share IP with another 500 people, so you can't base it on IP. You can't base it on MAC adress either, because it can be changed.

And banning everyone who will try it? Well, even I use, from time to time, my brother / friends accounts, just because they are not at PC and i want something from them, should i get banned for that?

But Devs have sayed, that their detailed info will come soon, so let's wait for that.
 
ban the software that controls so you are in a similar state as vanilla which also resulted in no one multiboxing since they didnt have any good software for it and first started coming around tbc for a price at the start even.

they could also demand 1x vote point per day when you play on the same ip address as another account currently logged in, then go to vote pass the human test writing whats in a picture, vote for server and improving the servers standing and advertising it higher. a multiboxer would then have to do that for each single account except 1, each day he plays or store some up the days he isnt playing.

this might sound easy enough but it gets bothersome with time, they could then in addition add some cosmetically prizes for 100 or 360 vote points where you get 1 each day, you can then buy a unique cosmetically item only available through voting daily and playing on one account, perhaps a tabard from the TCG cards released in vanilla and tbc etc.

well these are wild ideas but there are many ways to make it harder for them and reward those who play only with 1. these are perhaps not the best ideas but i am sure there are some other good ideas about preventing them access :smile:
 
I myself did a fair bit of multiboxing in retail and I would be rather interested in trying that again. I was mainly doing PVE as I was getting seriously facerolled in PVP... Farming heroics (in wotlk) resulted in a rather impressive cashflow and I can completely understand why people would like to forbid the multiboxing in private realms. However, in the other hand, as the accounts are free everyone would be able to participate in multiboxing :).

As for the banning aspect. I would think it's rather easy to spot a multiboxer, report him and get him banned (if that's the policy to be decided).
 
Never invite multiboxers for any raids, dungeons etc, easy, when u can control Xx characters, u dont need help.:biggrin:
and 98% multiboxers on end sell all this chars.....logic as (_._)
 
so allowing multi-boxing would be to encourage un-socialism and selling of accounts ?... doesn't sound vanilla like :S

well i don't have anything against them if they wanna be un-social, as long as they never make a step into pvp world/bg etc. but that would still leave the acc sellers, and solo raiders :/

in the end i guess i am more for the idea of ban report on sight or adding it to the anti-cheat detect etc.
 
Sven said:
You cant compare the old retail wow with the actually project. You needed to have 3/4/5 or what how much accounts to multibox and so you needed to pay for this accounts and to buy the game. So it was not possible for everybody to multibox, cause it was quiet expensive.

In my mind its not a good idea to legalize that, cause this can really destroy alot. I dont speak only from pvp, just think about the economy. Every character can push 2 professions and you could do alot of gold with that...
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Agreed! If you play on ED you see multiboxers everywhere.. it totally destroys the experience.
I know nohing about coding so I will probably sound like a ****t when writing this: But I wish they could somehow write a authentication(?) program that checks inputs, processes and so on that maybe then "talks" with warden or whatever.

As Cr0wl0ck wrote on the suggestion forums; IP's are easy to change but mac-adresses are not as easy.. maybe running it on a virtual machine yes, but if you have the auth program check for processes then yes this could work.
 
.It doesn't need to be a fix that is added on release since multiboxers become a problem months later when they reach max level. this gives time to make the software to counter it.

a simple program that is required to run in order to gain access, this little program would then scan for itself on the machine before starting, sending a request to the server, the server responds and the player is allowed to login similar to a ping. If the program detects a 2nd wow client opening it will shut it down, also when it is shutdown it also closes the wow client.

that is at-least the idea, the problem is making it which only few private servers have done. the program could also serve as a way of communication in case they want to inform players that there's a restart later or they updated and what has been changed or fixed etc. there are many possibilities of how this could serve them as more than just an anti-multibox tool :smile:.

note: locking ip addresses to 1 account while being used would already reduce multiboxers a lot since most wont be running virtual machine or have multiple net-cards, only few would resort to using virtual machines so locking an ip to 1 account while online would be the fastest way to reduce the multibox number.
 
Well having a IP-lock would be counter-productive since then lan parties wouldn't be possible so it would probably have to be mac-adresses
 
hmm yeah :/

guess the best counter would be the software then :sad:

hope they make it so the game feels as much like vanilla as it possibly can :biggrin:
 
Thinking about it I am sure this server will have cheat protection that scans the memory (like warden), active dlls etc so actually scanning how many instances of WoW is running and flagged software (lazypig or whatever they are called), vmware and so on.. can't be that big of a change(?):huh:
 
lazypig existed as single client first but soon after recieved a multibox version.

but aside from that they would have to make a secure program that scans for what isnt supposed to run and so the pc is only running 1 wow.exe at a time. and they would have to set it up so he cant shut it down without it closing wow. So i think it isn't a simple task.

note: if they lock each account to an IP address while online, then others at a lan party would just have to use a proxy and they would be able to play.
 
There is still my issue.. I share IP with more than 500 people. So only one of us can play at one time?
 
you could use a proxy, at-least that would solve most of the multibox problems, those who share or play lan can then just download some proxy software :wink: + i doubt all 500 play wow and on the same private server :smile:

could also be a temp fix until the software comes if they plan to fight them which i hope they will :biggrin:
 
Cr0wL0ck said:
lazypig existed as single client first but soon after recieved a multibox version.

but aside from that they would have to make a secure program that scans for what isnt supposed to run and so the pc is only running 1 wow.exe at a time. and they would have to set it up so he cant shut it down without it closing wow. So i think it isn't a simple task.

note: if they lock each account to an IP address while online, then others at a lan party would just have to use a proxy and they would be able to play.
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Yes. But that's quite a hassle especially for people who never used one before, and a good proxy isn't free.

Maybe this could work:

1) On the account management they add a field for mac-adress.
2) This then communicates with a mysql server that in turn talks with the realm
3) Each player downloads the small background program that gets your mac id
4) the program communicates with the realm that in turn checks the mysql database to verify.

Maybe it could be as simple as pings from the server to the client...

I guess this would require a lot of work since ppl would get disconnected if any of this fails to load or even worse maybe security risks if the mysql database get hacked...


Easiest tbh would be to just add the rule: NO MULTIBOXING. :tongue:
(once again I obviously don't know crap about coding or the amount of time required to do this so I hope I didn't offend anyone working on this project with this post)
 
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I personally have nothing against multiboxing as long as you're not allowed to PvP while multiboxing.
And why? Because if you break multiboxing or dual boxing at least (2 rather than 3-5 characters)down you get this: twice the costs, half the money, less xp (not half but I don't remember the formula), twice the amount of drops needed for certain quests - some which have a horrendous droprate.

Sure you might be able to solo certain group quests or elite mobs - but to me, the price for doing so offsets the perks for doing so, besides some classes can do so anyway. Multiboxing dungeons? Sure, but unless you're rolling five paladins or five warlocks you'll be needing to cough up about 450g for mounts at level 40. Besides, multiboxing is and was allowed in retail.

I'd rather see that they put an effort in weeding out and banning bots, as those are the type of "people" who ruin the game. Yes, I've dual-boxed in the past and it is not an experience that I'd call pleasant by any stretch of the imagination, sure alot less downtime which is nice when you're playing a class that otherwise might suffer from it (warriors, priests, mages...), but I personally have no intention on dual or multi-boxing on Kronos or any other server as I found the experience a drag to say the least.
 
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