TheOG
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- Joined
- May 2, 2016
Currently the high rank players farming for top standings (both factions) are playing 99% Alterac Valley. The current state of the K2 PvP scene makes it "not even worth it" for rankers to queue for WSG or AB, even during the bonus weekend. This is simply not how things should be.
Things are already getting to the point that AB and WSG are barely even popping.
If nothing changes, in ~2 months we will be looking at an entire generation of r14 players that did the WHOLE grind in AV start to finish.
^ This is a sad picture of what "PvP" ranking has become on K2 over the past few weeks. It benefits both sides Honor rates to avoid actual PvP combat and just farm PvE objectives within AV.
Most of the rankers on both factions were hoping that this problem would begin to go away as more of the general population hit AV Exalted, but things are only getting worse. As I write this post, it is nearly EU prime time, and there are Z E R O Warsong Gulch or Arathi Basin games open!! This is simply not right on a healthy server the size of Kronos 2.
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Possible Solutions
1. Disable group queue for AV. This would obviously spark a bit of controversy because 100's of players have already achieved Exalted by queueing in raid groups. It should also be noted that while disabling group queue would discourage people from premading AV, players would still use the method of counting down in TeamSpeak and simultaneously solo queueing in order to get into the same game and rush Van/Drek.
2. Buff the AV Battleground itself. The most obvious way to make winning AV more difficult would be to implement a pre-nerf 1.4 version (land mines, etc.) of the BG. Other servers in the past have switched to a pre-nerf version of AV in order to counteract the game-breaking efficiency with which the 1.12.1 version of AV can be farmed. This would obviously require quite a bit of work from the Kronos staff, and would also be somewhat controversial because so many players have already farmed Exalted in the absurdly easy 1.12.1 version.
3. Nerf the Bonus Honor gained from objectives. This absolutely must be done, regardless of whatever other changes may or may not be implemented. Currently the Honor gain even from LOSING in Alterac Valley still beats playing WSG or AB. The current Bonus Honor amounts allow players to efficiently farm high standings by simply killing the elite Lieutenants that award 198 Honor each and then WAITING TO LOSE.
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I was in disbelief as my group opted to spam AV zergs throughout the entire AB bonus weekend. But it was simply a fact that if we didn't spam AV, we would get our standings taken by people that did. Quite an anti-climactic and boring way to spend my last week ranking. I hope that the Kronos staff implements a fix for this soon, or the PvP scene of K2 will begin to deteriorate.
Things have only been this way for about 2 weeks. It's not too late for a fix. But if another 2-3 weeks go by with AB and WSG hardly even popping, it will start to effect the health of the server.
Things are already getting to the point that AB and WSG are barely even popping.
If nothing changes, in ~2 months we will be looking at an entire generation of r14 players that did the WHOLE grind in AV start to finish.
^ This is a sad picture of what "PvP" ranking has become on K2 over the past few weeks. It benefits both sides Honor rates to avoid actual PvP combat and just farm PvE objectives within AV.
Most of the rankers on both factions were hoping that this problem would begin to go away as more of the general population hit AV Exalted, but things are only getting worse. As I write this post, it is nearly EU prime time, and there are Z E R O Warsong Gulch or Arathi Basin games open!! This is simply not right on a healthy server the size of Kronos 2.
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Possible Solutions
1. Disable group queue for AV. This would obviously spark a bit of controversy because 100's of players have already achieved Exalted by queueing in raid groups. It should also be noted that while disabling group queue would discourage people from premading AV, players would still use the method of counting down in TeamSpeak and simultaneously solo queueing in order to get into the same game and rush Van/Drek.
2. Buff the AV Battleground itself. The most obvious way to make winning AV more difficult would be to implement a pre-nerf 1.4 version (land mines, etc.) of the BG. Other servers in the past have switched to a pre-nerf version of AV in order to counteract the game-breaking efficiency with which the 1.12.1 version of AV can be farmed. This would obviously require quite a bit of work from the Kronos staff, and would also be somewhat controversial because so many players have already farmed Exalted in the absurdly easy 1.12.1 version.
3. Nerf the Bonus Honor gained from objectives. This absolutely must be done, regardless of whatever other changes may or may not be implemented. Currently the Honor gain even from LOSING in Alterac Valley still beats playing WSG or AB. The current Bonus Honor amounts allow players to efficiently farm high standings by simply killing the elite Lieutenants that award 198 Honor each and then WAITING TO LOSE.
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I was in disbelief as my group opted to spam AV zergs throughout the entire AB bonus weekend. But it was simply a fact that if we didn't spam AV, we would get our standings taken by people that did. Quite an anti-climactic and boring way to spend my last week ranking. I hope that the Kronos staff implements a fix for this soon, or the PvP scene of K2 will begin to deteriorate.
Things have only been this way for about 2 weeks. It's not too late for a fix. But if another 2-3 weeks go by with AB and WSG hardly even popping, it will start to effect the health of the server.
