Well, as the person often leading this (only?) somewhat serious premade I can say the group was initially created to prevent having to play with PuG-horde. I usually start the day by pugging and inviting the decent players that are online / in these games. The recently arrived green geared / AFK-ing guys make pugging torture.
Many of the core of my group do play for honor, to reach a certain goal. And I do agree many of them are PvE minded and are looking purely at the endgoal, a certain rank and the gear/status. For me it's working towards a goal and having fun along the way, playing with others. And I want good pvp moments along the way.
I don't understand why there are no other horde groups up, a serious lack of druids is part of it I assume. It also seems like a horde cultural thing at this point to just solo or wait it out. We are also used to pugging since until recently horde won pretty much all pug games in 10 minutes. This was my experience until about a month ago. I
If this keeps up I hope others will start forming groups, too many whispers now from people seeking spots. Having said that the group usually still lacks healers and dispells and without crucifier and lehti this problem got a lot worse. <3 playing with you guys
Basically my thought come down to this. I agree with Remembrance that this behavior is a threat to a good pvp experience. I have been on both sides of this problem and just taking the flag and turning it in three times while the rest is dancing around in mid or EGY is not very rewarding. I hope to make or join groups that focus purely on winning not just honor.
However, the truth is I worry about several PuG players that push honor to insane amounts if they get the chance. We got too many green geared rank 2-6 guys going 12-18 hours a day and in order for me to reach my goal I take the measures needed. I have been told by one of them he enjoys messing with standings and likes to troll rankers. Playing 1 hour games hurts us and actually helps these guys by taking a strong allience premade out of the rotation and damages our hourly rate. Allience does not seem to have this problem, not with these kind of players nor with the honor/hour they much reach (since fixed standings).
I have to play efficiently. Today I did not and we had some good games, but pretty bad honor. I can only hope it does not negatively impact me. Play better is the obvious answer but we all have to accept the system we play in.
And to Remembrance I say, I understand that as a true pvp-er avoiding the other faction's premades is not what you are looking for. When you make your group give me a /w and I'll play with you, your rules (still welcome in mine of course
). After I am done ranking I hope to play in such groups anyway because like I have been told many times I can improve quite a bit ("get engineering noob").
I hope we get more people actually interested in being the best premade and perfecting our WSG plays.
