Re: Kronos has a Perception Proble
Kronos's players will speak for kronos. If it is good they'll say it's good and it will slowly attract more players. If it's bad well well see how that goes.
You're right, if it is good, it will slowly attract more players. But my point in all this is to negate or at least minimize the impact that this current perception of Kronos has on the Vanilla Community (of which is 7000+ and not the liberal 1500-2000 players that people had originally guessed).
Hi Rawhide. That was very nice. I don't know if I've ever been addressed so formally. :wub:
Your concern is that Kronos won't have as many people as Nostalrius, but who says it needs to?
Nostalrius is buckeling under the pressure of sheer number of players they've got. what makes you think Kronos can handle that kind of load?
I seriously hope it can...
Regardless if people like the Auction house or not, or think it's pay to win or not. SHouldn't we wait untill release and see how big a crowd shows up over the next couple of months.
I mean... this will be done anyways. Might as well start off with a bang and garner the most following you can from the beginning. Some people loath not being at a server launch.
The auctionhouse might be a succes in attracting players that doesn't want to relevel again after leaving their old server...
This should be a concern because this really is straddling the line between "Pay-to-Win" and "Anti-Corruption / Server Upkeep".
Edit: I can see most of your posts are in regards to this auction house, getting the same replies again and again. So i don't really know what you are expecting to accomplish with yet another.
Especially this close to launch.
When this whole "Character Auction" first blew up here on the Kronos Forums I actually supported it as long as it is clearly documented with all sides of the debate present:
http://forum.twinstar.cz/showthread.php/91364-Character-Auction?p=717316#post717316
http://forum.twinstar.cz/showthread...o-other-Twinstar-projects?p=717611#post717611
Still today the only way to really learn the ins and outs of the Character Auction is to read about the Character Auction here on the Kronos Forums. Navigate BACK to the main TwinStar page (Away from the Kronos SubDomain) create a DIFFERENT TwinStar account, authenticate that shit, navigate to your account management on the new TwinStar account, find the rules of the Character Auction listed as "User Manuel". Read the nearly THREE PAGES of rules & FAQ on the subject. And then make a decision on if it is really Pay-to-Win or not (of which is still debatable)
Now... are all the people here that are logged in, ready to respond to this post going to do that? Sure.
Are the people lurking here that don't even have a Kronos Forums account that just enjoy reading up on the Kronos / Nost forums going to go do all the above? Probably not. And that is your majority of any playerbase... the silent majority.
Do I even want those people that won't do the research, to play here with us? YES! A THOUSAND TIMES YES!
I want that hardcore player that is lvl 60 within 4 days of launch here.
I want the 12 year old that has never played vanilla to play here (easy HKs, duh)
I want that veteran vanilla player that has a family & job now that will take 2-3 months to get to 60 to play here. He probably has EXCELLENT skills and would kick my ass in a duel anyday and be a great person to have in a dungeon group.
I want everyone to play here. I DO NOT want only the "Committed" (read: those willing and able to sink 8+ hours a day into WoW) to play here... Those are the elitists who will complain that you're not holy specced at level 19 for Deadmines so you cannot heal. Fuck. That.
even if we were to remove Character Auctions we'd still have the ''P2W taint''. Besides, it'd be like admitting they have a point.
I'm honestly torn between the desire to not bow before stupidity, and pragmatism.
They DO have a point. An official character auction where a new player can acquire a 60 within a few hours of creating an account CAN be seen as Pay-to-Win. It does not matter if that character was leveled by someone else, that time was put into that character in a legitimate way, that the character is not created "out of thin air". Being able to purchase a character with money (which twinstar points cost) can and will be considered Pay-to-Win. I don't care what you or I know what it is and how exactly it works... they don't and THEY are who matter, your potential playerbase.
The only people saying its p2w are the wannabe hardcores on Nos who think waiting 10 minutes for an object to spawn makes them better than other vanilla players.
This is probably very true. But they are
vocal wannabe hardcores who think waiting 10 minutes for an object to spawn makes them better than other vanilla players. And when "Pay-to-Win" starts getting thrown around and
connected to Kronos (or any server) it is a sure way the "Filthy Casuals" will be turned off from Kronos.
I WANT those "Filthy Casuals" to play here. I AM a Filthy Casual. It makes getting dungeons groups easier. It makes getting help with that elite quest easier. It makes BG ques pop quicker. It makes raiding guilds have enough people to fill an actual raid. It makes the leveling experience 1000x more fun. I've been having a BLAST on Nost leveling up with a gazillion people running around ganking eachother left and right, fucking over Alliance trying to do the Heart of Mokk and sniping the mob they spawned so my group gets the quest and they dont. I've been having a blast helping a Gnome mage to kill the elite he spawned 7 levels higher than him in Dustwallow Marsh for his mage quest, communicating with only emotes. I've been having a blast getting an excellent group that clears a full run of SFK in just over 30 mins, friending the tank, chatting every now and then, even though he is 25 levels lower than me now, I know that when he hits 60 he'll be an excellent guy to call on or join up with for a dungeon / BG.
I don't like the extreme amount of Bugs / terrible scripts on Nost (Rag being exploited by 3 guilds now...). It's why I am here making this wall of text. As long as Kronos' claims of having far superior scripts is true, I will gladly make Kronos my permanent home.
I just don't want Kronos to have a much lower population than it should because of a controversial P2W option that will likely not bring in much money for server upkeep in the first place.
