Wow. I assume English is probably not your first language, but "if you do not want to wipe in naxx join risen" is a pretty far stretch from what my recruitment message actually says.
When I saw that yesterday, I was on a voice chat with someone who is a native English speaker and also understood it like I did.
And because myself and others continue to fight for what we believe is in the best interest of server, we are "selfish crybabies?" Thanks. Really shows what kind of person you are. You twist people's word's.
Wow, you finally experienced what I experience each time I vouch for a blizzlike naxx, not to talk about the facepalm squads. May I hand you a tissue?
Further I am not arguing for inclusion, but, other than you, for a vanilla version of naxx because I already know that even under normal circumstances more than a hand full of guilds will struggle. Yep, it is hard to understand why I do that, especially since I'm in the guild you describe as most hardcore, so I'll try to explain you why. I've played on 3 different vanilla private servers and at there was always a more or less big "elite" of players who were sacrificing much of their time in the game. The problem with that was always that average players, which made more than 3/5-4/5 of the server's population most of the time, were NOT online 24/7 ingame and on the forums of the respective server and subsequently these servers ALWAYS developed in the direction the "elite" players wanted it to develop, because they were just making use of their voice much more than anyone else (this is, as I am sure you know, commonly also known as crying in order to get some particular bug fixed, for example). What happened to these servers was for example on Feenix-Warsong, that only one or two guilds killed Kel'thuzad a couple of times and nobody else could. For the average guild Sapphiron was hard to kill and KT was impossible. Finally, when Emerald Dream was released, everybody left Warsong because of the promise that ED would be 100% blizzlike, with no out of hand tuning. Same on the German Nefarian realm, where only 3 or 4 guilds killed C'thun for over a year. Okay, other guilds also SOMETIMES killed it if they had a full raid and were fully world buffed. The whole AQ was so over tuned that even the top guilds had to use flask and every world buff available to clear it in like 2 hours. My old guild with normal players (which usually make 3/5-4/5 of the player base on a healthy server) broke apart because the best people in our guild always were soaked by top guilds, no matter how many newcomers we recruited. It wasn't just that Cthun or other bosses in AQ were a bit harder, it was massively buffed. Same for BWL. A typical BWL run took 3 hours or a whole raid night because everything was hitting super hard and fast. Even though this sounds like a pleasant, challenging and hard blizzlike version of the game, it was in fact only super annoying to prepare all the consumables, and I am definately NOT the kind of person who slacks on consumables (currently I can raid over a year without ever buying/farming anything consumable related).
And now comes the reason to why I am AGAINST a buffed version of naxx: most of the normal players do NOT have a stock of several 100s or 1000s frost and shadow protection potions like the players in "elite" guilds usually prepare, maybe they have 40 of those potions which will be burned after a few IDs and then shit gets super expensive because everyone is in need of the mats for it. For the majority of people farming 50g (if that's still the price) to buy a stack of plaguebloom or 110g in order to get that lotus is NOT as easy as it seems for somebody who has played this game for a very long time. And these players are what keeps our server healthy. We rely on them and without them we would have even more of a ghost town server and even less fresh blood to recruit. Personally I do not care about fucking loot (I bring this up because you often mention loot pinatas). Caring about the loot is fucking ridiculous. Also this attitude "he didn't try as hard as I did, so he does not deserver t3". Do you really need to set yourself apart from others by having loot they don't have? I really cannot believe that you think like that. If you want to show you're good and set yourself apart from others, then do speed runs, like everyone else does in old games to prove their skill (just search youtube e.g. for super mario bros speed run, sonic the hedgehog 2 speed run, etc). And I cannot believe that you want to change the naxxramas
for everyone, just because you're personally not satisfied with the game's difficulty.
If the toughest bosses in Naxx are dying in only a handful of attempts, yes, of course they need to be buffed.
Surprise. Surprise. In a 12 years old game. Maybe after such a long time and with so much knowledge, vanilla is just not what you remember it to be. Back then the lack of knowledge made the game difficult.
Man, really, I don't wanna argue with you because I have a good opinion of you, but you should really start to think about how difficult vanilla actually really was and what you expect from the server and also not forget that you're not alone on this server. I understand if you want the same feeling as back then, but that is already gone with multi accounts, multiboxing, x7, 45 warlock summoning, screwed timeline, 1.12.1 items, and and and. The best would REALLY be to make a new server which is very hard and challenging by yourself.